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hidden message behind it. Remember, dreams show the reality of
what you are in the ‘Present State’ and all that is yet to come, the
adjacent probabilities.”
“One fine day I was waiting for my friends outside a Shiva
temple. It was dusk time, when I saw two men appearing from
one corner of the temple. In appearance, those men differed from
my vil age people in appearance and seemed to be outsiders. They
were walking towards the other corner of the temple giving me a very
weird look. Suddenly, I felt someone grabbing me from behind and
covering my nose with a sweet fragrance that caused me to fade into
darkness as it rendered me unconscious. I regained my senses the
next day and found myself in a disorganized house. I felt dreadful
that my dream had come true, the feeling I had was not a fragment
of my imagination. The situation was scary for me as a child. I did
not know how to come out of it—I screamed for help, however, there
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was no one who could have helped me.”
“They had locked the door and there was no window to plan
or escape or to get help from any passer-by. It had been two days
since they held me captive and nobody had come to my rescue. I was
without food and water and had no hint of the whereabouts of my
kidnappers. My tears had run dry and my eyes had swel ed, however
I found no escape. I prayed to Lord Shiva to show me a way out
of the house in this situation. It was the morning of the third day;
final y the kidnappers came for me and sold me to a kind gentleman.
I could not understand their language as they were conversing in
Bengali. However, I could make out that they had sold me to the
man and he was happy to have me. The man took me to his house
where his wife was waiting for us at the entrance. The moment she
saw me, she overcame with motherly emotions. I never understood
what transpired between them because of the language barrier. But I
could understand their affection through their feelings and gestures.
They were good people who loved me like their own son but in my
heart I could not understand why God had put me through this
situation. I was unhappy with all that was happening with me.
My foster mother tried her best to keep me happy and bring a smile
on my face.”
“I realized soon that I was not angry with anyone for what had
happened but I needed to know where this situation was leading me?
Months passed and I helped my foster parents with basic household
errands, besides reading books. I was paying them my sincere service
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of gratitude and I could now understand their language in bits and
pieces.”
“As days went by and I never failed to fulfill the duties of a
son. Soon my selfless act of service towards them melted my foster
father’s heart.”
“My dear child! I know you must be missing your family and
you are not happy here. I don’t know where you have come from.
It must be difficult for you to accept us as parents, who bought you
with money. I apologize for what I did. I merely wanted to give you
a great life, as you seem to hail from a good family. But with passing
time,, I know I have to free you from this bondage. Today I could
final y muster al my courage to have this conversation with you. Go
my child, go wherever you want, he said with lot of affection in his
eyes.”
“Incidental y, a ‘Sangha’ of Yogis was passing by the house. As
I looked at the congregation I felt happy within and my new parents
saw me smiling genuinely for the first time. “Yogi, you must go, I
have observed your nature.. and you are not a normal child. It seems
your soul is longing to live this experience,” my foster mother said
with tears in her eyes.”
“I looked at them for the last time, deep gratitude for them
fil ing my heart and I final y walked towards the Yogis to join them
in their procession.”
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It had been two days since Babaji’s last message. I
was wondering what could be the cause of this delay. To
understand the situation I kept checking within myself and
in a part of my mind thoughts about Babaji and His story
consumed me, playing a loop.
It was a usual morning that day. My husband Krishna
and I got into an intense discussion about some spiritual
concepts. He asked me a simple question - “Define yourself!” .
The moment he said these words, I got furious at him
thinking inside that who was he to ask me such questions
and I walked away. After two hours of this episode, I was
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in the kitchen taking care of my daily chores. I received a
message from Babaji, “You must lock yourself in your bedroom
for the next 12 hours.” I followed His instruction with no
questions, confining myself in the four walls of the
bedroom and began writing his story further. As I wrote, he
shared something enlightening about the tiff I had with my
husband in the morning. “Calm down, this has happened with
me too. It was me who was talking to you through your husband in the
morning” , Babaji revealed.
For a moment, there was complete silence and then
both of us burst out laughing at the situation. I was laughing
more at myself and my naivety. Feeling light in my heart, I
resumed my conversation with Babaji.
Pallavi: “Babaji, shall we continue with your story further?”
Babaji: “After joining the group of Yogis, I got clarity about my
purpose of life. I wanted to know more about the human life beyond
this daily existence. I read the Vedas, Gita, Bible, Upanishads etc.
One day, I got an opportunity to participate in a Shastrartha (a
conference where people debate on philosophical or religious grounds)
with a group of scholars. On knowing that I had read so extensively,
one great yogi, Swami Haridas, asked me a question “If you have
received command and understood everything, then tell me, how wil
you Define Yourself?”
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“I went into a deep silence, ‘ My Silence” was an answer
in itself which cannot be heard. Deliberately choosing defeat over
victory, as it was a part and parcel of such debates (if an individual
was quiet and crossed the time limit to respond in their defense or
answer any question put across to them, they were declared defeated).
However, in this situation, the answer to the question posed by
Haridas was indescribable and so I was happy with my defeat.”
“This incident also helped me face my ‘Ahamkara (ego)’ which
shat ered. Everything happened in a flash of few seconds and I
silently walked away from the conference and began my journey
towards the Himalayas. Before stepping ahead, I looked back once
and saw Swami Haridas wh
o was smiling at me. What blew my
mind was witnessing a huge form of Shiva behind him. I immediately
understood that the question posed at me was not from Haridas, but
the super-consciousness Shiva Himself. Only one thought consumed
me - I am an eternal soul and I want to be eternal in my physical
form too. I was 27 years old at the time when I decided to at ain the
beyond of the beyond itself.”
“With contentedness in heart and a smile on my face I started
walking again. My true journey to the beyond had final y began.
The people present there could not understand where I was heading
and what path had I chosen. My face was aglow with a sense of
purpose and the will to achieve something. Some disciples fol owed
me without asking anything and others had too many questions in
their head.”
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“My legs did not give up and I kept walking for miles, day and
night covering states after states. The more I walked the more people
gave up on walking with me on my journey. I carried on for days
with no food in my stomach and had only liquids offered by disciples
and other people on my way. The ego of pride I had developed over
time by studying under the company of the most renowned Gurus of
that time was false. I had felt a dire need in my soul to find my true
existence. I needed to define it to myself.”
“The memorable part of this journey was with one of my
disciple. He walked with me in faith and true belief, no questions
asked and no doubts in his heart. His name was ‘Sarah’.”
Pallavi: “Can you please tell me more about your disciple
Sarah?”
Babaji: “Sarah was a noble soul, kind, generous and dedicated.
His aim was to serve humanity. I met him in a small vil age at 15
years of age while visiting Sri Lanka. He was just a 7 year old boy
with an innocent smile, wearing orange clothes and expressing his
deep desire to be a yogi. He was always drawn to the lifestyle of a
‘Sanyasi’ and took great care of every yogi who visited his place,
making sure he met them al . When I met him he was with his
mother. Sarah got to know that a group of Yogis was visiting his
vil age and he made sure he brought his mother along with him.
They came to see us at our base camp on the open ground near
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the river, where we had put up our tents. I was working on some
Sutras (a rule or aphorism in Sanskrit literature) with my guru,
‘Divij Swami’ who taught me through his sermons. Sarah met al
the Yogis who were present at the base camp and final y came to meet
us. As he saw me, his eyes were lit with depth and was looking at
me intently.”
‘What do you see in me?’ I asked him, my curiosity at its best.
‘My Guru,’ he said unperturbed.
‘I feel I have waited for you for an eternity and today my search
has final y come to an end. I request you to kindly take me along
with you, as your disciple’ he said with folded hands.
“I was surprised at his response.”
“Sarah’s mother smiled and said, “I have noticed the nature of a
Yogi in my child. Since he was 3 year old he would feel inexplicable
joy at the mere sight of a Yogi passing by. When he was 5 years of
age he told me I should prepare myself for the day when his guru
will come to take him along. Today the day has final y arrived and
my happiness knows no bounds. I feel no pain for losing my child as
I have been practicing detachment from him for the past two years. I
request you to please take him along with you Guruji.”
“Her clarity was impressive and I couldn’t help but marvel at
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the selflessness of a mother and her unconditional love for her child.
I was young and my key focus was to gain more knowledge from
different gurus. Divij Swami had been listening our conversation
from a distance. I looked at him with many questions in my head
and he simply read my eyes. His response was simple yet potent
with meaning, ‘Receive your first disciple and you will receive many
disciples in the near future. You must not hesitate to take him with
you.’
“I smiled, as Sarah touched my feet and I hugged him. That
was the beginning of my journey with Sarah.”
“Years went by and Sarah was always by my side. One fine
day we reached a place near Badrinath. I knew this was a journey
that I had to take alone and I requested him to go back to the group.”
“I will come back again do not worry. This is not the end of
our journey together but I have a soul purpose to at ain”, I lovingly
conveyed to Sarah. His eyes were ful of tears and there was a huge
smile on his face. I saw deep love in his eyes for me which was
indescribable. He folded his hands for the last time and said, “I
wil wait for you, until we meet again.” He left, leaving an indelible
mark of his kind smile and deep eyes on me.”
“As Sarah left, I redirected myself to Kailas as Shiva had
spoken through Swami Haridas at the conference and had instil ed
a renewed sense of purpose in me. I walked towards Mount Kailas
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while carrying out various practices to enhance my journey on the
path of truth. I had to undergo hardship and I was ready for them.
I got detached from the outside world, with the sense of my physical
body by performing Kriya Yoga.”
“There was only one tree in the vicinity, so I chose a rock under
that tree which felt magical to me. It was swaying lightly in the
breeze, enjoying its surroundings. It drew me to immediately and I
sat under it for my intense Sadhana. During the initial days, I could
not fast for days. In the beginning my mind would pay more at ention
to the needs of my body and the hunger pangs. However, gradual y
the process reversed and I at uned with my soul, gaining control over
my mind. Detachment from my body prepared it to receive energies to
an extent where I did not require any food more to sustain myself. No
mat er, how long I walked from one place to the other I did not feel
hungry at al . I realized that it was not just my soul and my mind
which were in the state of knowing but also my body.. all three of
them were in perfect synchronization with one another.”
Pallavi: “Do you have any previous lives?”
Babaji: “Yes.”
Pallavi: “Have you not taken birth after this life which we are
discussing? Have you real y been living in the same body?”
Babaji: “Yes, for three years I went into a deep meditative state
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under the tree near Kailas. Those three years enabled me to at ain
eternity in the same body. I got into the state of an ageless being. The
massive tree protected my body for all those years. When I final y
came out of my meditative state and opene
d my eyes, I saw the tree
turning into Shiva. He poured the water of Holy Ganges on my
body from His ‘Jata’ (mat ed hair). ‘You must go to the souls living
in the dark, craving for light. Become their soul-guide and impart
them with the knowledge of Kriya Yoga,’ he said and disappeared
thereafter.”
“My birth name was ‘Nagraj’ and few people also cal ed
me ‘Yogi’. Lahiri Mahashaya entitled me as Babaji in the 19th
Century and later many addressed me as Mahavatar.”
“You can call me by any name you like. I am always close
to your heart. As my body gained immortality, becoming ageless,
I dropped all identities, gaining a handful of names (laughing
heartily).”
“My energy frequency had reached a high level now not because
of the ‘Siddhis’ I had at ained but the great purpose I had to fulfil .
I visited every individual who needed to be uplifted spiritual y.”
Pallavi: “While at the Babaji caves, I got an experience where
I saw you as an old man. .”
Babaji: “Yes, true.”
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Pallavi: “But you mentioned that you are beyond age and time
on this dimension — why did you not appear as a 30-year old?”
Babaji: “What you saw is correct because you wanted to see
the age of my soul and not physical form (laughing). When you say
‘You’ it never refers to a body form but a soul. When you are in the
physical system, you are more concerned about the body which has
no meaning in the spiritual journey.”
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PARALLEL LIFE EXISTENCE
Babaji: “I was in deep meditation day and night. Reading
Upanishads gave me a lot of clarity, bringing me to a zero state.
When you can clean the physical debris in your mind, only then you
can see the higher truth. I had truly forgot en what it was like to
be in my physical body because I was journeying with my soul on a
deeper level.”
The Vision:
A ring of light rapidly traveled in space, went higher
and exploded. It generated an enormous amount of light
which was spreading all over; giving birth to a ‘Lotus’ which
was light pink in color. The Lotus bloomed opening half
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way through and Buddha came out in front of Babaji who